you-know-who here, this is so delightful!!! to read!!!! somehow even with my tortoise pace of manga reading i've read both of these mangas and your tweet was brain fodder without understanding properly why, and you laying it out clearly is so nice. i love your point about the plot progressing thing, though i feel like yaoi invested in seme/uke dynamics does tend to have uh semblance of a plot? mostly the plot is them coming together via flirty shenanigans. though i guess it IS meaningless lol when you consider old fashioned cupcake's investment in the theme of youth and wanting youth and weaving that into the yaoi of it all. anyway, really glad you expanded this :D